Read first Marilynn Mair CGOW session - July 20, 2003
Back when we first started tossing around ideas for guests to represent
the mandolin community on this forum I suggested to Glenn that Marilynn Mair
would be an outstanding choice, based on her consistent standard of excellence
in performance and her untiring support of Our Favorite Instrument I'm
delighted that her time in the CGOW spotlight is here, and encourage all who are
interested in contemporary mandolin music in America to send in their questions.
Concert performer, recording artist, professor of music, mother of two
musically talented kids, director of America's pre-eminent summer school for
mandolin and guitar -- any one or two of these can be a full-time job, but
Marilynn manages to do them all. Here, from her Web site (www.marilynnmair.com) are
some excerpts from her biography:
"Ms. Mair began her mandolin studies with Hibbard Perry in Providence,
Rhode Island, and continued them in Vienna with Professor Vincenz Hladky, of the
Vienna Conservatory. She also studied in Germany with mandolinist, Takashi
Ochi, and with Sigfried Behrend, guitarist and director of the German Mandolin
Orchestra. As a performer, Ms Mair has continued to develop mandolin technique
and repertoire, and has commissioned, recorded, and performed works by many
important contemporary composers, including Ernst Krenek, Guido Santorsola,
Evan Ziporyn, Daniel Pinkham, Ann Carr Boyd, Sigfried Behrend, David Jaffe, and
others.
Best known for her performances and recordings of chamber music, Ms. Mair
has also, in recent years, become increasingly involved in the field of
Brazilian music, performing and recording "choro," an early-20th-century style of
Brazilian jazz that features mandolin. She has researched choro extensively,
and her articles on its history and music, published in Mandolin Quarterly and
elsewhere, are some of the most complete available in English.
In addition to her solo career, Ms. Mair directs and performs in a number
of chamber groups. She founded and directs "Enigmatica," a mandolin octet
specializing in Baroque, Brazilian, and contemporary music. She also performs and
records with the eclectic "World Café Quartet." Ms. Mair is the Artistic
Director of the American Mandolin & Guitar Orchestra, a group whose membership
spans North America. She performs in a number of duos with different musicians,
including Brazilian pianist Luiz Simas, and guitarists Sasha Lisnichuk, Robert
Paul Sullivan, and Andrew Mah.
Ms. Mair is actively involved in continuing and developing the American
classical mandolin tradition. She directs the annual American Mandolin & Guitar
Summer School, a national forum for mandolin and guitar instruction, now in
its 18th year. She is also a regular columnist for "Mandolin Magazine," and
"Mandolin Quarterly," writing on mandolin technique and history, and reviewing
CDs.
Ms. Mair is a Professor of Music at Roger Williams University, in
Bristol, Rhode Island."
-- Max McCullough
Q - I hate to keep beating this horse but your hand position has me stumped. Your description the last time around sounds to me like your hand and arm are floating 2-3 inches above the strings and nothing is anchored. The description in the "William Place" book appears to support my understanding.
I tried to play allowing my arm to float like that and cannot seem to get the hang of it. First, do I understand the arm/hand position correctly?
A - Well, better to beat the horse than the mandolin, I guess... Y'all don't cut a girl the slightest slack here at Comando! It's been 4 months and you're back to the tough questions from the get-go. How about a couple of ditzy questions like "what's your favorite color and the astrological sign of your favorite composer," just to get the typing limbered up? Nope-- the hardcores are back to the thorny issues of right-hand technique!
Classical mandolinists don't really float our right arms, although I do like the angelic analogy. Classical mandolinists play mandolins w/ raised pickguards. If you have a vintage instrument that previously belonged to a bluegrass player, yours may be missing. If I was a mandolin-demo video model, I'd sit with my right arm hanging straight down from the shoulder. Then, I'd raise my hand up, bending my arm at the elbow, keeping the elbow in place, to slightly more than a right angle. Then, keeping my elbow in place, I'd swing my hand down to the face of the mandolin, curl the fingers in lightly, put a pick between my thumb and index finger, and, as I pick down and up, drag my pinkie on the pickguard. (Yes, you do need a pickguard, otherwise your pinkie
will be stretching too far to reach the mandolin face and tense up your hand too much). You don't plant your pinkie, just brush it across the surface of the pickguard. It'll act as a sort of fulcrum to allow you to move from one string to the next or judge your depth and keep it consistent, especially on the tremolo.
Q - What advantage does this position provide over the typical bluegrass method of letting the palm brush the strings behind the bridge?
A - The main advantage is being able to develop a tremolo that can go on into infinity and modulate tone and volume expressively and with precision. If tremolo isn't an issue for you, then really any right hand position that doesn't lock your wrist or plant your hand on the mandolin face will work.
Q - If one decides to switch picking styles, do you have a feel for how long it takes to get back to the current comfort level using tthe classical position?
A - My advice is: don't switch cold turkey. Have a set of exercises that you practice every day for a half hour, minimum, using the new technique. When you play tunes you already know, don't worry about it, just play. At some point, if the new technique is useful to you, it will begin to insinuate itself beyond the exercises. You should remember that there are no points given in mando-heaven for discarding a workable technique and martyring yourself to one that is deemed "more correct". Don't change your technique unless your old technique is getting in your way, or you're hurting your arm with too much tension, or you are frustrated with your tremolo, or you want to expand your range of expression. I watch other players all the time to see how they are producing their sound. Sometimes it's to help them improve or vary their sound. Sometimes it's to get an idea for a new technique for my own sound arsenal. Sometimes, as I did with Brazilian music, it's to find a new musical voice to speak with. Sound is cool fun to play around with!
Q - I've been working on your recent columns in mando mag about tremolo and right hand technique. I've been working on my tremolo for about 2 years now, and its gotten a lot smoother, but not really faster. Is this something that will come with time? Rather a frustrating process. I usually work one piece until the next issue comes out.
A - There are a few ways to approach making your tremolo faster. Here are some things you might try. The point of "speeding up" one's tremolo is actually to increase the density of notes-per-second in a given timespan. Think of it like pixels-- the greater the density, the more precise and subtle your musical shading will be. A faster tremolo will give you more to work with in shaping your tone. So a simple, but surprisingly little-used method of speeding up your tremolo and increasing your note density is to actually slow down the tempo of the piece you are tremoloing. If the tempo is slower, you'll need to add more down-up strokes to fill up the interval of a half note. By increasing the number of notes per beat you'll be building up your tremolo stamina, and giving your wrist practice in staying relaxed for a longer time period. Don't worry if the tempo is so slow at first that it makes you want to scream. As you keep this up, your "motor memory" will inevitably begin to speed you up. If you keep the number of down-ups per beat the same, then your "motor memory" will automatically cause you to increase the density of your tremolo as your tempo speeds up. For this reason too, you should be sure, when you are working on your tremolo, that you never play a tremolo w/ down-ups at 16th-note speed. Be sure you're picking a tremolo note at least at 32nd-note speed-- no matter how slow this means you have to take the tempo. And, yes, it does take time.
But once you have a smooth tremolo it will last a lifetime.
Another technique you can try is to work on doubling your hand speed for a short exercise-- sort of like mixing sprints into a distance workout. Play a comfortable 16th-note down-up for 4 quarter-note beats, and then double your hand speed to 32nd-notes for 2 beats, and then return to 16th notes for 4 beats. Keep the alteration up for a specific time -- maybe a minute. If you can't double your hand speed, then slow down your 16th notes until you can. Get that metronome speed, and work to increase it slowly.
I have to state very emphatically here that you are not to do this to the point of pain, because it can be easily abused and injure you. and you are not to increase your metronome speed quickly-- do it in small increments and be sure you are comfortable at one speed before you move it up a notch faster. Again, "motor memory" will eventually do your work for you.
Q - Would it be possible for you to post some sound clips of the pieces in your article? I'm not sure if I'm playing them correctly. I'm having trouble with the whole tied-vs-slurred notes, how are they different? Also, is it correct to tremolo a half note that is neither tied nor slurred to another note? My SOP is to tremolo anything longer than a 1/4 note.
A - Posting sound clips-- sounds like a good project for the summer, if I can find some techno-whiz to help me. Volunteers? A "tied note" is one note of a value that can't be written using only one note. An example would be a 2-and-a-half beat note. In that case a half note and an 8th note of the same pitch are "tied" together, and are played as one note. "Slurs" are the same markings, but are used to connect a number of notes of different pitch that belong together in the same musical gesture or "phrase". As a general rule of thumb-- and certainly in the exercises I write in "Mandolin Magazine"-- all the notes under a slur are connected together, and so, if tremolo is being used in the piece it should be unbroken under the slur and break between slurs. Certainly single notes can sometimes be tremoloed. It's a matter of determining the sound you want for the note, and how it fits with the notes or phrases on either side of it. Some players use a default setting of playing quarter notes with down strokes, using down-up strokes for notes of smaller value, and tremolo for notes of larger value. Start out this way, but be aware that the tremolo is a technique that draws alot of attention, and so it shouldn't be used for an unimportant note, even a long unimportant note. Sorry, but in the end there really is no shortcut for listening, plotting and planning the course of your piece. Two pieces of similar note-values and tempos could use a completely different application of tremolo depending on the character of the pieces and of the performer. It's all part of the artistry of the mandolin.
Q - I've just been getting into classical mandolin, mostly because my sight reading wasn't up to par, but its getting better. Lots of fun!!!
A - Welcome, and have no fear. Classical mandolin is the coolest-- and so are you for jumping into its exotic temptations.
Q - I think I have all your CDs now, and since I only recently bought them, I'm still digesting them. I think my current favorite is The Mandolin in the 18th Century. The Beethoven works are incredible, particularly the Adagio in Eb, and I like the Hummel piece a lot, also. I'd be interested in hearing your reflections on the artistic merits of these pieces and on the experience of playing them.
A - First of all, you are a prince among men for buying all my CDs Note to Comandos: My website CD catalogue could sure use a few other princes, princesses, or even a couple of frogs! "18th Century" is my current favorite too, mainly because it is the new child. It is also the fulfillment of a long-held promise to myself to do a good-sounding modern recording of these lovely original mandolin pieces in an authentic context, but with a sound quality that would have broad appeal. The project came together last winter when I got a grant from my university (I am a Professor of Music at Roger Williams University in Bristol, RI) to put on a concert for mandolin w/ string quartet and piano in the university's performing arts series. I called up some friends and my producer, and we gave the concert and recorded the basic tracks all in the same week. I think we mandolinists are really lucky to have 4 pieces written for us by Beethoven, and they should be played. !
Yes, he was a young man at the time and wrote the pieces for friends and patrons, but there's no hiding genius. The works are in the easy-going galante style of social music in the late 18th century and are easy to like.
The Hummel sonata for piano and mandolin is a more virtuosic work-- Hummel was the hot pianist of his day-- and the piece really shows the debt he owes to his teacher, Mozart. What I particularly like in these works is that both composers analyze solutions to the inequalities of sound volume between the two instruments, and write the music so the mandolin "sounds through" the piano parts. Pianists particularly love the Hummel it's so flashy for them-- and I think it's really great for mandolin as well! My pianist, Nancy Nicholson, is incredible to work with and we really agreed on how to approach the issues of tempo, rubato and balance. The pieces are incredible demanding precision-wise for both players-- lots of ornaments, sequences and other repeating patterns of fast notes-- so we groaned a lot to each other about the unforgiving nature of the music, coming from Brazilian music (my last recording) and French Impressionist music (her forte).
And for all the work, the nature of the music has to be respected, so it all has to sound like a lot of sweet fun. Ultimately, we liked the pieces and the challenges were cool, so we did the work and are really happy with the results.
Q - I'm also curious as to how much material is available for the mandolin from this general time period? Is there a catalog of such works? Does your CD showcase most of the canon, or does it only scratch the surface? I'm particularly interested in pieces of this period written for mandocello. Do you know of any such? Also, do you know of any English composers of the 18th or 19th centuries who wrote for our instrument?
A - There are tons of pieces, but most were not published and they are found in manuscript form in libraries in Europe. Many of them are social music written by virtuoso mandolinists. I have stacks of them-- most classical players do. Lots of the pieces from the 17th century are written for mandolin and "basso continuo." B.C. is a music shorthand system where the bass line is written out w/ some numbers attached to let the player know what chord belongs w/ the bass.
There is a duo in Italy that plays a lot of these pieces on mandolin and mandoello. The lines are contrapuntal so it works well. To find these pieces is somewhat difficult. Paul Sparks and James Tyler wrote a book about early mandolin. I'm at work now, so I don't have the exact title. I'm pretty sure you can find it in the Plucked String catalogue online. Norman also carries some of these pieces that are discovered and arranged by performers/scholars and published in Europe.
Q - Any thoughts on playing works written for the mandolin versus adapting works written for other instruments? Do Bach's sonatas and partitas translate easily for mandolin, for example, or are there "issues"? Are there important compromises or decisions that have to be made?
A - I always transcribe. That way I can find a repertoire that suits me exactly. I've gotten pretty good at it through the years. The unaccompanied Bach are great, although some of the more chordal movements rely heavily on the bow. I use specific movements as teaching pieces. I've never performed them, because I don't want to play a piece unless I'm convinced that my view into a piece gives a new perspective. I don't want to be a 2nd-rate violin. It's fun to play the Brandenburg concertos on mandolins, as I've done w/ my octet Enigmatica but for a recording I want a piece that I can play so folks will say "ah hahah or "ahahhhh..." or in some other way appreciate what I have done. The music has to come first. I usually start w/ a piece I can "hear" on mandolin.
Q - Metro is also an incredible CD, and I love Swimming in Light! I have ZU playing now! (Your thoughts on Grisman and Statman Mandolin> Abstractions?) I like them all. Make more music!
A - Thanks-- "Metro" is really fun-- I write tunes and play accordion and play w/ my kids-- how's that for confounding my classical fan-basese? "Swimming in Light" ("Nadandom Luz") is a CD that still rocks my world.
The Brazilian music and the cool musicians saved me at a very difficult point in my life. Grisman and Statman are incredibly interesting musicians-- I like everything they do! I have lots more CDs on my mind-- the next one to come out is a CD w/ Enigmatica that should be out by summer. Then there's the new-American CD w/ guitar, and the follow-up Brazilian CD (maybe w/ book) and the Romantic-era bittersweet CD... Planning and recording a new CD is one of my favorite highs, but it takes tremendous work and a certain amount of financial backing. But there will be more-- you can bank on it!
Q - During your last visit as CGOW, you spoke a lot about your technique. You mentioned the way you hold the pick, as if you were holding an eggshell with your forefinger curled and parallel to your thumb. My questions are: Do you REALLY keep your index finger parallel; or do you let it slip a little for support as well as flexibility?
A - I suppose some slippage does occur-- the hand relaxes and may open slightly. Certainly don't be so precise as to tense up your right hand.
Q - How do you keep the pick from slipping sideways? This happens to me a lot and I find that letting my index finger drop helps.
A - Your sweat gets good. My pick will stick to my index finger even upside down, except in the coldest (driest) weather. So wait, or try climbers chalk.
Q - In regard to your strokes, do you play up-down-up-down? Or, when crossing strings, do you play down on the first note of a new string?
A - I usually alternate, starting with a down stroke. I alternate across strings too-- I don't automatically use a down stroke when moving to a new string. Sometimes I'll reverse my picking if it's more logical for cross-string picking. For instance, if I was playing down A-G-F-E on the E-string, with an open A string between each note, I'd probably play an up-stroke on the E-string notes, because that would move my pick in the direction of the A-string for the next open-A note. A down-stroke on the open-A would get me over to the E string for my next up-stroke note (the G, etc.).
Q - Coming from a background of playing other kinds of
music, I've tried to learn some Bach sonatas on the
mandolin--to help my reading, for the challenge, and
to explore the genre. I'm not well-schooled in
listening to classical music, esp. the sonata form,
and I wanted to learn it from the page in order to
concentrate on developing my reading rather than my
ear.
A friend of mine, who plays old-time and Celtic
fiddle but had spent some time playing in a
community orchestra, had once told me that there was
a very interpretive way one could play a sonata,
speeding up and slowing down the tempo as one would
vary dynamics. The only times I've heard these
sonatas played have been by non-classical players on
non-violin instruments: Bela Fleck on his SOLO
BANJO WORKS CD and Chris Thile backstage at the
Wings & Strings Festival. In both cases, their
playing of the sonatas was both fast [big surprise
A - Absolutely! Any violinist or cellist
playing the unaccompanied Bach works for their
instruments is going to play w/ rubato. Most
classical guitarists worth their salt will too.
Rubato is the art of allowing a particular beat to
be pulled back or pushed ahead slightly, while
maintaining the integrity of the "big beat". Rubato
gives a piece room to breathe, and personalizes a
performance. There is a danger in rubato, however,
because it can be misused. It doesn't give free
license to a performer to dispense w/ tempo, and,
to be convincing, it need to convey an indisputable
artistic vision. It can't be copied; it can't be
faked; it belongs uniquely to a performer, and,
actually, to a performance. I've heard students play
the biggest mess of out-of-time notes as Bach on
their mandolin or guitar and insist that they are
correct in their interpretation because that's the
way their favorite famous recording artist played it.
Of course they're wrong. The famous artist never
lost track of the big beat no mater how they bent it.
The student just hasn't groked the nuance of the
performance. Rubato is part of a mature and
historically-informed approach to Baroque music.
But, of course, you can't do it until you're ready,
and even then, it's possible take it too far for
some folks' taste. Start your Bach without rubato.
If you can't play it metronomically then you have no
business introducing rubato anyway. Bach wrote 85%
of what he had to say into his notes. Concentrate
on getting that first.
Q - I downloaded the sheet music you put on your website. Thanks for making that available. I am learning Iara which is a gorgeous piece and accessible for a beginner such as me. I noticed, however, that when you play the piece, you incorporate a kind of swing. Could you say something about that? How does it differ from swing in other forms of music?
A - You're welcome-- isn't it a beautiful piece! I play the piece using some rubato (I described that in the last post) and also some rhythmic variation. I hold some of the slow notes a tad longer, to give a light floaty nostalgic feel, and then rush the quick note runs a little to give a giddy excited quality. Yes, I do think the piece is all about love . The piece was written in the Romantic era and choro then, as it was beginning, was influenced by Chopin as well as native Brazilian dance forms. So that kind of interpretation is stylistically fine, and it resonates well with my personality. Choro, although it is a written music, also has an acceptable vocabulary of rhythmic variation. Dotted-8th/16th figures can be interpreted as triplets to soften the rhythm, or anticipated-- played slightly before the beat-- to accentuate the syncopation. It's part of the performance practice of a style and, like the use of rubato, it can't be faked or copied. So how do you figure it out? Listen to lots of choro recordings by the great master interpreters and get a feel for what works for them. When you get a big enough vocabulary of alterations in your head you'll be able to approach the written melody in a stylistically-appropriate way that won't be copied, and will work artistically for you.
Q - How do you "hold the pick more lightly" when playing choro?
A - Easy to feel, difficult to describe, but I'll try. I'm assuming, for the purpose of this explanation, that you're playing your mandolin with a small, heavy pick-- one that is stiff enough to push your strings with enough force to cause the body of your instrument to sound, but still slightly flexible so it can bend a little on string contact. The more firmly you hold a pick like that, the more focused a sound you can produce on your instrument. A full, focused sound is precisely what's needed for classical music. With a sound like that you can build the big crescendos, strike the dramatic chords, control the long variable-speed trills. Note: if you are playing with a very thin flexible pick on a traditional American carved-back A or F model instrument, all bets are off, because you've essentially given over control of your volume and attack to a piece of plastic, or maybe to your microphone.
Choro is played on a bandolim-- a lighter, brighter Brazilian version of a mandolin, strung w/ light strings and played w/ a flexible pick. To play choro on my mandolin-- a heavier-built, higher-tension instrument-- without altering my technique would result in an overplayed sound for the nature of the repertoire. I am a stickler for observing stylistic characteristics of a music-- classical or not-- so it was natural for me to fool around with my pick technique until I could achieve a sound that, to my ears, made choro sing. Well, why didn't I just play a bandolim-- you may ask. Indeed, why didn't I just play an 18th-century round-back instrument on my recording of Vivaldi and Beethoven, maybe one w/ 6 single strings? I like the sound of my instrument.
I'm a modern North American playing a modern North American instrument in the 21st century. I'm not about to pretend otherwise. But I'm also a professor of music history and a scholar of Brazilian music. I'm not about to take the performance practice out of a musical style. So my right hand is the variable that lets me vary my interpretation, much as a violinist or classical guitarist does. I may have got off on a tangent here, but I really can't answer the question technically because it's all about the art of sound production, and the artistic intelligenc eof knowing what sound you're aiming for, and why. Not just a "good" sound or a "pretty" sound, but an appropriate one. I know when I've found it.
Q - Do you happen to know where I can get sheet music for Portuguese guitarradas? Or just a book on Portuguese traditional folk music? I've googled my fingers blue but have been unable to find anything.
A - No, sorry. Try Luso-Brazilian books maybe?
Q - What is your favorite color?
A - Purple, except in cars, where it's English
racing green.
Q - I re-read some of your comments from your last
go-around, especially about your feelings as to why
you don't feel comfortable playing bluegrass because
it is too rigid or formulaic a mandolin style. I
would be interested in your analysis of what you
consider to be the traits/trademarks of the
'bluegrass style' mandolin.
A - Well, the reason I don't feel comfortable
attempting to play bluegrass is that I don't know the
trademark licks. So I'm probably a pretty bad choice
to define them. I'm a player who is really sensitive
to genre, however, so I do know when I don't even
have my foot in the door. If it was easy to play
bluegrass, I would. Because it's cool and it would
be fun to fool around with. But, you know, to really
get into a style you need to feel more than
sorta-would-like-to. Now with classical mandolin
(remember, I did start w/ fiddle tunes) I was obsessed
w/ knowing everything about it. I took lessons from
a teacher who didn't even cut me slack when the method
book had me playing Jingle Bells in July! Likewise
w/ Brazilian music, I couldn't let it stay on the
page. I needed to make the music live, and I knew
that I'd figure out how to do that. Bluegrass doesn't
call me, so I haven't figured what makes it it. But
here's my big secret: I really want to be as cool as
Sam Bush.
Q - Evan Marshall recommended light strings and a
thin pick for classical music. Would you second that
recommendation? Any idea what kind of pick the first
players of Beethoven's pieces for mandolin would have
used?
A - I adore Evan, and we have, years ago,
agreed to disagree on this He plays a very
lightly-strung instrument with low action and a light
pick and he often uses amplification. I play a
heavily-built instrument w/ medium gage strings, a
high action, and a small heavy pick and rarely use
amplification. Vive la difference! We have different
agendas w/ classical music too. But so who cares, as
long as we can avoid being hauled in by the mando-cops!
Q - I was really interested in what you said last
time about standard notation. I was intrigued by
the notion that standard notation gives the player
more freedom. I assume you mean that, where as TAB
says, put your finger here to get the required
sound, standard notation says, play around with all
the possibilities and do what is right given your
instrument, your hands, and your taste. I wonder
whether you could elaborate on some of the ways this
freedom has enhanced your art. Are there pieces you
finger differently from other players, for example,
and if so, what is the effect on your expression?
A - Yes, there are lots of pieces I play uniquely. Some
of them have been convincing enough to alter standard
interpretation of a particular piece. All artists
have to be innovative, to think outside the accepted
parameters. Not to be different, but to be
authentically themselves. I can truly say that I've
never been satisfied playing a piece like anybody
else. That would be derivative and, by definition,
second rate. I finger a piece to take advantage of
the tone color of my instrument-- playing a melody
entirely on one string, or in a particular position
on the neck. Sometimes I finger a piece to allow for
consistent phrasing in a series of sequences, or a
series of trills. Sometimes I phrase it to cover for
a weakness in my instrument or my technique. I like
to see the TAB for arrangements by a player like
Simon Mayor, who works out unique arrangements,
particularly solo pieces, that sit well on the
instrument and allow a series of hammer-ons or
pull-offs to happen easily. That's an interesting
lesson for me, but I'd never want to copy him and do
it the same way. Playing from TAB, to me, is like
playing w/ an extremely flexible pick-- you give the
control of your sound and your expressive range away.
I couldn't do that.
Q - I can really relate to this, personally. I play the
Beethoven Sonatina in C a lot, and being rather dumb
about things, I tried playing the whole basic melody
in first position. After about a year of lifting my
hand up and hammering my pinkie down like a club to
hit that high C, I decided to try it another way,
and so now I shift up to I guess what would be third
position (first finger on third fret). This way, 1)
I can hit the high C easily (though Grisman can do
it in first position, so I suppose it's possible),
and 2) I kind of like the SOUND of shifting back
down to first--it falls in just the right place,
punctuating the melody's syntax nicely. TAB doesn't
preclude adjustments like that, of course, and is a
good way of notating them once you figure them out
and want to share them, but I feel pretty good
about having figured this out just based on the
notes. Anyway--I'd like to hear more about this.
A - Or, on the C major, you could shift to 2nd position.
Or start in 2nd position and stay there. You listen
to the notes on your instrument and how they support
their role in the piece and decide where to play them
based on your assessment of that. Sounds like you've
done that-- good work! But here's the funny thing:
sometimes I painstakingly work out the "best"
fingering and then abruptly change it, because it
doesn't "feel" right at tempo. Or somebody looks at
what I'm doing and asks me why I'm doing that and not
this-- and it opens a door to a new easier way. Or
not. In any case, with notation, rather than TAB, the
decisions remain where they should be-- w/ the player.
Q - I was fascinated by your comments last time about
gender. So let me ask: do you play like a girl?
Silly question, I suppose, but whatever. You
commented on gender and the social aspects of being
a professional musician, and you characterized (I
thought) bluegrass as a male aesthetic or something.
Can you recognize the gender behind a person's
playing? Do questions like this enter into your
thinking at all?
A - I've been laughing about this question since I first
read it. "Do I play like a girl?" It actually was
a female CoMando who told me to stop stepping around
the issue and just say it-- that bluegrass is all
about testosterone. I think I do pretty well agree.
It's like lead guitar in rock-- anyone should be able
to do it, in the abstract, but 99% of lead guitarists
are guys. I think of the mandolin as a very feminine
instrument, and I realize that I am in the minority
here. I play like me, and I'm a girl; therefore I
play like a girl. But what does that mean?
Traditionally it seems to mean more emotion and less
power and speed. But traditionally symphony
orchestras were full of men until they started having
auditions behind a screen. Now the ranks frequently
have more women than men. I always think of myself
as a woman when I play. And I think this is an
advantage from a performance standpoint. I can
generally tell the difference between men and women
performers on recordings, and I don't think this is
bad, or that one is inherently superior. I like what
I do; I like who I am. There's big chemistry in
music, and a mix of genders is a good thing.
Q - A hypothetical question. Assuming you could turn back the clock and had to
start your classical mandolin career and music career over again from day one, what if anything would you do differently, regarding your training, studies, technique, etc. the second time around? (And of course you have already done a fantastic job the first time around!)
A - Good save there at the end Sure.
If I had to start over again I'd start younger. I'd
have discovered the mandolin as a child and had
immediate access to a great small instrument and a
good teacher. I'd have won the heart of a devoted
patron quite early in my career so I wouldn't have
to have a dayjob and could just play mandolin all
day. I'd still study w/ Hibbard Perry and Vincenz
Hladky, and Takashi Ochi, and Hugo D'Alton, but I
would have also flown to Brasil, as a child prodigy,
to hang out w/ Jacob do Bandolim. I'd have been
represented by a devoted agent who would have made
me and mandolin famous in the world of chamber
music. Sigh... actually I probably wouldn't have
changed much, because I've been fierce and lucky,
and have found opportunities on the fingernail of a
suggestion. I might have been bored otherwise; I'm
pretty independent. If I could change anything now
I'd be back on a record label, would have a good
agent, and some company would call and hire me to
make a teaching video and take care of all the pesky
details.
Q - Does your "core foundation" of technique change when you go from
genre to genre - classical to choro, for example ? (By the way, your World Cafe
Quartet Metro CD is amazing - I love your version of 'My Funny Valentine')
A - No, my technique does not change. It bends
a little, but is basically the same. It's a flexible,
versatile style; I've developed it to work for me and
it does. Thanks for the good words for "Metro"-- I
had such pleasure recording "Funny Valentine". It's
a simple and overplayed song, but I love it and I
think that shows. If I'd put music on my webpages,
that was my pick for my bio page.
Q - If you would, please share with a four year tab reader the most efficient way to begin to learn to read notation. Any simple exercises, and your incredible insight would be greatly appreciated !
A - I've never played from TAB, so I'm just guessing here, but I'd say,
play scales and arpeggios. They are the heart of all
tonal music. Learn your key signatures. When you're
going to play a piece in the key of D, play your D
scales and arpeggios first to get you into the proper
sound space-- you'll be more likely to hit the right
notes. It might help to have a recording of a piece
you are reading, so you can play along w/ it and let
your ear help you read. Any CoMandos who have done
this-- feel free to jump in here!
Q - We're still hoping you'll visit the West Coast !
A - I'm still hoping to be out on the West Coast soon,
with a great guitarist/mandolinist I have been
playing w/ of late. There are plans afoot, but
nothing concrete. When I know something I'll send it
into the list.
Q - Any thoughts about the aesthetic value of pick click? Is it to be avoided? Is it an essential dimension of our sound?
A - It's always there. An audience won't hear it too much, but close miking will capture it in a recording.
I actually don't hear it much and it doesn't bother me when I do. It's real, and the noise of tone production is part of any instrument. When we were recording "18th Century" the engineer had to mike the piano really carefully to avoid incredibly loud pedal noise. Who ever thinks of that, except a pianist or a recording engineer? You can definitely hear my pick on some of the intense sections in my recordings, but,hey-- they're intense! Erasing pick noise from a recording is kind of like the Barbie-&-Ken approach to human anatomy.
Q - Please tell us about your exquisite Woodley mandolin. Your Lyon&Healy asymetrical Style-A sounds gorgeous on recordings and in person, but that Woodley is something else. How does it differ from the L&H? Do you find that one works better in some contexts than the other?
A - Ah, my two fabulous instruments, sigh... Would that my love life were so
good! But maybe it's time for a better-than-original
replacement to manifest itself there too!
I played my original beloved L&H for years, accepting
no substitute-- not even another of the same sort!
Then-- the fateful summer I met you, Peter, and your
charming wife and daughter at AMGuSS-- my mandolin
world changed forever! Well, that may be a little
dramatic, but it's getting late here. Anyway, my L&H
case latch failed and my instrument tumbled out onto
the concrete floor and was beheaded! In the middle
of AMGuSS and miles from home! I had no other
instrument there, and borrowed a remarkably good one
made by Doug Woodley, a longime AMGuSS student. I
think it was yours, Peter... Anyway I played my
Gibson F-4 that fall until the L&H was repaired and
breathed a sigh of relief to get back to its gorgeous
rich sound.
The next summer I remember another
Woodley being passed across the orchestra at AMGuSS
for me to play, and that time I decided that I was
going to get Doug to make me an instrument, with the
same measurements and scale-length as my L&H. I
think it took a about a year-&-a-half. It was
gorgeous from the get-go. But I was definitely a
one-mando woman to that point. So I decided, to give
it a chance, that I would play my Woodley exclusively
for 3 months, to break it in. It sounded so good
after that there was no reason to stop playing it.
Doug made the D string stronger and kept the great
balance of sound across the strings that characterizes
the L&H and makes it great for classical music. He
made the instrument look like his, but he built it
to measurements from my L&H, so it felt comfortable
from the start. He also made it easier to play.
The next year at AMGuSS, I played half a concert on
each instrument, and there was intense discussion,
over beer, as to which was better. The crew was
definitely divided. But I've played the Woodley ever
since I got it, with a brief break to play & record
the "Mandolin in the 18th Century" project (because I
thought the rich heavy sound of the L&H would be good
for that period.) On the whole the Woodley is a
better, more versatile instrument for me. It allows
me to create a lighter sound for Brazilian music, but
still spin a rich tender tremolo. It has amazing
power for those intensely violent Piazzolla chords,
but balances beautifully for classical pieces. And
it just keeps getting better.
Q - Is there a number for telephone order of your CDs?
A - No, sorry, I don't do credit cards myself, I do it
through PayPal on my site. If you don't want to use
a credit card online, then email your order to me @
mairmusic@yahoo.com. I'll email back an address to
send a check and will send your CDs out when I get the
check. That's the way I did it before my new spiffy
online CD catalogue was designed. The
free-SoundingJoy-w/-order-of-3 offer is still good
for all CoMando-ers, even those who order this way,
through 12/24. Thanks lots to those of you who have
already ordered!
Q - Will that West Coast tour include Arizona (we'll be on the Coast once the San Andreas fault sheds it's left half--or maybe sooner, if Global warming keeps up
A - Arizona IS the West Coast to those of us in frigid
New England! If you can schedule a concert, or a
mando week-end workshop, we will come! Are you
kidding-- Arizona anytime between now and March is
heaven to a New Englander! Email me off-list if you
want to get serious about this! That goes for anyone
in a sunny or otherwise amusing spot of the country!
Q - I can't begin to tell you how much I have enjoyed your tour(s) as GCOW. Much (most) if it is way over my head but I am totally fascinated by the facility with which you are able to describe the indescribable. Somehow it makes me feel as though I even know what you are talking about!
A - Well, of course you understand everything
I'm talking about-- it's all mandolin. You should
see me sitting in front of the computer w/ my eyes
closed trying to figure out how to write something
that will translate into a specific physical movement.
It's nice to hear from you because you are a hero of
mine from the old-old days of CoMando when I was
clueless about how to send an email and someone in a
workshop suggested that I sign onto a listserv to get
practice. CoMando was it. It's fun to be back!
There's no more questions in my mailbox-- y'all have
4 more days-- don't stop now!
Q - I have two questions for you:
First, does your "core foundation" of technique change when you go from genre to genre - classical to choro, for example ? (By the way, your World Cafe Quartet Metro CD is amazing - I love your version of 'My Funny Valentine')
And second, If you would, please share with a four year tab reader the most efficient way to begin to learn to read notation. Any simple exercises, and your incredible insight would be greatly appreciated !
We're still hoping you'll visit the West Coast !
A - No, my technique does not change. It bends
a little, but is basically the same. It's a flexible,
versatile style; I've developed it to work for me and
it does. Thanks for the good words for "Metro"-- I
had such pleasure recording "Funny Valentine". It's
a simple and overplayed song, but I love it and I
think that shows. If I'd put music on my webpages,
that was my pick for my bio page. I've never played
from TAB, so I'm just guessing here, but I'd say,
play scales and arpeggios. They are the heart of all
tonal music. Learn your key signatures. When you're
going to play a piece in the key of D, play your D
scales and arpeggios first to get you into the proper
sound space-- you'll be more likely to hit the right
notes. It might help to have a recording of a piece
you are reading, so you can play along w/ it and let
your ear help you read. Any CoMandos who have done
this-- feel free to jump in here!
I'm still hoping to be out on the West Coast soon,
with a great guitarist/mandolinist I have been
playing w/ of late. There are plans afoot, but
nothing concrete. When I know something I'll send it
into the list.
Q - As a long-time admirer of your work (along with Hibbard, Herman, and Walter, but still hangin' in there) I wish to congratulate you on your two fabulous tours of duty on the COMANDO CGOW program. Your contributions simply sparkle! They are knowledgeable, accurate, interesting, and humorous from time to time. Are you sure that "Marilynn" is spelled correctly? Maybe it's people like Condoleezza, Russell, and all the Finns with their double letters who have influenced you?
A - Thanks, glad you like the chatter! Those double letters are absolutely important. But,
on the advice of a friend, you can also get to my website by typing in a 1 "n" version of my name.
Q - I want to express my appreciation for your recommending that each mandolinist develop a recognizable style of his/her own. Several years back I returned from a CMSA convention with your Christmas CD and played it for a three-year-old grandson, who was astonished at how nicely the mandolin switched from "pretty music to not-pretty music and back again." This was a Spanish or Italian carol in the key of D minor (and D major,) and the young lad insisted that it was the mandolin leading up to the major chords that was so pretty, not the major chords on the guitar. I am a great fan of all your recordings (except maybe the one with the non-mando instruments.) I wish you luck with your new E-mail news letter.
A - I remember you telling me about your grandson's comment. The tune was "A la Nanita Nana" from "Sounding Joy". What a cool kid! And which non-mando instrumental recording are you objecting to? the accordion, or the string quaretet and piano? I know, you're probably holding out for banjo...
Q - With your unquestioned cachet as a mandolinist, organizer (I've attended two AMGuSS sessions) and writer, why don't you write a book (or series of books) on how to play the mandolin? Having studied and taught with Odell, Bickford, Pettine curricula, I wish some one would bring GGDDAAEE up-to-date. And you're the one who has the tools. And don't wait until you're an "Old Gray Mair" to do it!
A - That's a pretty big request, sir. But I do know what
you mean. Hibbard and Vincenz Hladky, who I studied
with in Vienna, both left method books barely begun.
so the legacy of their technique is left to their
students to pass along. I think I'd have to have some
big incentive to put the time and effort needed into
that project. I usually feel that i can barely fit
a few hours of playing into my work week as it is.
thanks for the vote of confidence, though, and I
promise I will think on it. And Merry Christmas to
you and your grandson!
Q - How about tempting all of us "would be" classical mandolinists with a little "commercial" for AMGuSS?
A - Well I haven't got the AMGuSS brochure out,
or the webpage updated yet (I'm still waiting for
room & board rates from RWU) so CoMando's will hear
it first right here: the Guest Artist for 2004 will
be (drum roll, please...) Evan Marshall! I'm really
pleased to have Evan back-- he was our guest artist
about a decade ago, and did a terrific job. He'll be
giving some workshops, introducing his new method
books for mandolin, and playing our friday night
concert-- way cool!
We also have a new member of the staff this year--
Adam Larrabee. AMGuSS participants from last year
are sure to be pleased! Adam is a jazz guitarist,
the mando-cello player in my octet, Enigmatica, for
the past year-and-a-half, and my new duo partner.
He's an amazing musician and a great teacher--
although not yet into his 30's. He knocked
everybody's socks off last year.
And returning faculty, we have Bob Sullivan-- our
fabulous orchestra conductor, guitar instructor, and
multi-instrumentalist (all the mando-fam instruments
and then some). One of my favorite duo partners;
renown for his wicked sense of humor, and part of the
"Bob & Bob" stand-up team. Also Bob Asprinio (aka
Dr. Bob) the other half of the team. but, in serious
circles, a lutenist, and player of all the mando-fam
instruments and guitar. Also plays mandocello in
Enigmatica, and, with his lovely wife and soprano
Ellen, is 2/3 of my favorite trio to perform with.
And Ralph Costanza, mandolinist, AMGuSS registrar,
guitarist and soul of the late-night jam sessions.
And, of course, there's me. There are technique
classes and world/jazz/folk sessions, w/ guest
artists like Peter Mix. Everyone plays chamber
music (there's a beginner ensemble w/ the redoubtable
Ralph for anyone w/ fear of one-to-a-part music) and
a nightly concert series featuring, besides Evan, me,
all the rest of the faculty, Enigmatica, and other
guests. AND-- the centerpiece of the week- the
American Mandolin & Guitar Orchestra-- made up of
all the students and faculty (yes, there are probably
some air-mando players among first-timers that
plays the final concert. It's usually 50-60 player.
Honestly, friends, this is the most fun you can have
in a week with your mandolin and still be legal.
there are CoMando's who can attest to this(or at
least tell stories...)
To qualify you need to read music-- even a rudimentary
level is OK, as there are classes at near-beginner,
intermediate, and awesome/professional level for
mandolin, as well as mandola, mando-cello, and guitar.
If you want to get a brochure, drop an email w/ your
address to Ralph @
Q - When I started playing mandolin, I was learning bluegrass, had a flatback, and always stood up as I could play with a strap. When I switched to bowlback, however, I had to sit. And now I get some lower back pain despite my sitting up straight and being athletic in general. Do you ever get lower back pain? If so, what do you do about it?
A - Hmmm... not much. I sit and play w/out a strap. I
usually sit well back in the chair so I get support
from the chair back. With a roundback it usually
helps to play w/ a suede or sticky cloth on the lap
to keep the instrument from rolling, and w/ a
footstool under your left foot to give the instrument
a good lap. I play a flat-back so I don't use those. I
lean forward a bit to shorten the torso. Be sure
you keep your lumbar curve and don't drape over the
instrument.
Q - How do you keep your hands from getting stiff? Do you stretch? Do you soak your hands? Do you wear gloves like Glenn Gould? I live in the balmy Bay Area and still find that my hands get pretty stiff (especially before a lesson when I have no time to warm up!).
A - You can stretch your hands by slowly and gently
bending each finger in toward the palm, and back--
but not too far-- with your other hand. Also separate
each pair of fingers-- pinkie/ring, ring/middle, etc.
w/ the fingers of the other hand. One funny exercise
to warm up the whole hand is to make your hands into
fists and then open them flat very quickly several
times in a row. Putting your hands on warmer parts
of your body (stomach, armpits can also help. I
wear leather gloves outside from September to May.
My pianist swears by soaking her hands up over the
wrists in warm water, but i've never done it.
Q - You have described much of the mechanics of tremolo and it has been quite helpful. Most of the advice I have heard regarding speed in playing relates to being loose and relaxed.
I find, however, as I try to play faster my shoulder and arm become tighter. Do you know of any way to learn to loosen up and relax. It seems when I demand that my arm let go, it spites me and gets even tighter.
Any advice and direction will be greatly appreciated.
A - Hoowee!! Is it snowing here! I'll answer
the last couple of questions I've got in my inbox
between bouts of shoveling. Last call for any
questions this week-- otherwise you'll have to wait
until I get my "Ask Dr. Mando" call-in radio show,
or the absent Commisar decides to invite me back next
year!
If your right shoulder and arm tighten up
uncontrollably, I'm pretty sure you're hiking your
shoulder-- compressing it up and inward toward your
ear. This basically immobilizes your right arm and
as you try to make it work harder and faster, the
shoulder squeeze continues to build harder and tighter
as well. Be very careful here, as you can permanently
injure yourself. You are trying too hard, and moving
too fast in your anxiousness to improve. The first
thing you need to do is stop giving the project the
"papa bear" effort, and de-escalate down to "baby
bear". You can't "demand" anything from your arm,
darlin'. In fact it's best to treat your arm,
shoulder and hand-- at least during this
technique-changing regime-- like they're sweet and
non-offending kindergartners. They're not trying
to do the wrong thing; they just don't know what the
right thing is. OK-- now sit in a chair w/ both
feet on the ground and your shoulders relaxed (try
to lower your shoulders down from around your ears
. It might help to tuck your chin down slowly
once and raise it back up-- to release and get some
space in between your vertebrae. (Gosh-- I'm sounding
like my yoga instructor!) Then begin to s-l-o-w-l-y
pick a continuous down-up on an open string (chanting
"ommmm" is optional Yeah, i am joshing myself a
little about this, but the point is not to rush, to
cut yourself lots of slack, and to be pleased at
every little thing your hand-arm-shoulder triplets do
right. It takes a long time to develop a decent
tremolo and the process absolutely cannot be rushed
or shotcut. It took me well over a year to develop
even an OK tremolo and today I've got one of the best
in the business. You won't have it by this Christmas,
but by next Christmas your "White Christmas" could be
smooth as silk! The directions I give my students on
improving their tremolo is, keep your down-ups smooth
and even, and keep your right arm loose. Slow down
as much as you need to to make that happen, as it is
the necessary first step. Speed is not your initial
assignment-- your motor memory will take care of that
for you later. But nothing will fix a rushed
too-tight technique. Have patience, Vinny, it will
come. Now I've got to go out to shovel-- I'll get to
the last couple of questions this afternoon.
Q - Could you talk a bit about the composers on your cd, Zu. The moreI listen to it, the more beautiful I find it. (I'm> particularly fond of Siegfried Behrend's, "Serenade". I'd like to know why you picked all of the pieces you did and your relationship to the composers, especially Ernst Krenek. The liner notes say that he wrote the piece for you to "expand the boundaries of the contemporary repertoire for mandolin-guitar duo." Could you explain how he expanded it?
A - There's always time for interesting
questions, especially to those of us newly
snowbound... "ZU," as a recording, was a work of
love, a work dedicated to making a mark in the sand
to preserve a certain kind of mandolin achievement,
not the sort that sells a zillion CDs, but the sort
that means there will have to be good mandolinists a
hundred years from now, because there are these pieces
that will continue to exist and demand to be played.
This CD preserves them; I had to do it. It would have
been so much easier if I'd been born to look good in
jeans and play bluegrass, but some of us are born for
this (big sigh). Luckily the job still involves a
mandolin and cool wardrobe! This may be a long
post because no one has ever asked me this before,
and the telling involves alot of stories. I'll start
at the top:
Norbert Sprongl: Duo
Ths piece was described by a funny kid who heard it
as "the dance of the bad elves". It is, IMHO, one of
the best pieces ever written for mandolin and guitar.
I met Sprongl over 25 years ago, when I was just
starting out and studying mandolin in Vienna w/
Vincenz Hladky of the Vienna Conservatory. Sprongl
was ~90. I was invited to his house, with my duo
partner and a translator, at Hladky's request after
my playing had been vetted, and we played the Duo
for Sprongl and his wife. The piece was a little
over my head at the time, but it had grabbed me and I
was working it out passionately. When we finished
playing, Sprongl mused for a minute, then asked me
how long I'd been playing mandolin. When I said 4
years, he smiled, and began at the beginning, going
over every nuance of the piece and even correcting a
couple of publication errors. A few of years later,
we returned to Vienna and played the piece in a
concert at the Palffy Palace in memory of Hladky,
who had died suddenly the previous winter. Sprongl
was very pleased. When our Duo decided to do this
recording of modern music, I knew it had to start w/
Sprongl. Much as the Kronos Quartet begins w/ Anton
Webern, Sprongl, for me, is where modern mandolin
style begins. And the piece kicks butt! Once when,
as a young American player, I was asked,
condescendingly, by an older pompous European musician
to "play something" -- the 1st movement of the Sprongl
is what I picked. I also remember playing it on
magical night in Spain, by request, too full of wine
to expect to do so, but, somehow, managing to pull it
off and see it more clearly in the process.
Brian Israel: Sonatinetta
I had recorded this piece previously on the LP
"Contemporaries," but wanted another crack at it.
Israel was a funny and brilliant composer who wrote
many symphonies, operas and chamber music in his
very short life. He was dying as he wrote this piece.
He wrote it for a mandolin composition contest, at
the request of mandolinist Neil Gladd. I got to do
the premier in London in 1984. It starts with a
brilliantly fast Toccata that clocks in at under 2
minutes, then moves to an unbelievably sad and stark
Elegia, that nearly always brings me to the brink of
tears, and ends up w/ a funny drunken Menuetto, that
lurches from 3/4 to 5/4, forgets where it's going,
and mocks Wagnerian opera in one sly quote. Israel
is the one composer on the CD who I didn't meet, but
I got funny letters from him, and he was pleased to
know we were performing and recording his piece,
although he never got to hear even the first LP
recording.
Sigfried Behrend: Serenade & ZU-MA-GI-TON
Behrend was an important and supportive mentor for me
and my first duo partner. I played in the German
National Mandolin Orchestra two summers under his
baton; studied at his masterclass; played in his
concert series in castles in Bavaria, and, the summer
before he died, gave a workshop at his annual Guitar
Masterclass, one of the inspirations for my own
AMGuSS. Behrend's "Serenade" is a sweet dreamy piece
that he originally wrote for solo mandolin and
mandolin orchestra, and he gave us his own
transcription for mandolin and guitar. ZU-MA-GI-TON,
the title is an abbreviation of the words zusammen
(together), mandolin, guitar, tone, is a crazy piece
that sounds like a free-jazz jam session from the late
1960's. The pieces is written pointillistically, with
boxes of notes to be repeated and graphic notation.
I mis-translated some of the directions given and was
trying to "temolo like a whirlwind" rather than
tremoloing behind the bridge, but Behrend liked it,
when we played it for him at a masterclass, and told
me to keep it in. The last summer I saw him he said
that someday our duo would make a really avant-garde
recording and put ZU-MA-GI-TON on it. So it had to
be here.
Fritz Pilsl: Sonatine
The titles of the 3 movements are from ancient songs
(the 2nd one, loosely translated as "Winter is going
on way too long" strikes an ominous chord today)
and is a delightfully diverse showpiece for its
under-5-minute length. I spent an intense evening at
a bar in deep philosophical discussion w/ Pilsl, who
speaks no English, speaking German way over my head,
thanks to some of Behrend's homemade schnaps. It's a
pleasant memory that far surpasses that of the serious
hangover the next morning. Ah, being young and
foolish...
Ernst Krenek: Suite
Krenek is one of the very important composers of the
20th century, part of the "2nd Viennese School" of
Schoenberg, Webern, and Berg. He became famous in
his 20's, in the 1920's, writing an opera "Johny
Speilt Auf" (Johnny Plays Out) that radically combined
12-tone music with American Jazz. He immigrated to
the USA and lived in southern California. This
piece, that is dedicated to my Duo, and commissioned
by us, is my contribution to mandolin longevity. But
before he would even put pen to paper we had to fly
out to California to audition for him-- merely
agreeing to pay for a commission wasn't enough to
convince him to write for mandolin and guitar.
Because of Krenek's historical importance, because
this was his last piece, there will always have to be
mandolinists good enough to play it. Noone's played
it except me, yet, and it's definitely the hardest
thing I have ever wrapped my fingers and brain around.
It's finally about to be published, and there are
many players eager to get a crack at it. It's lovely,
to my ears, in an atonal way. The technique required
sounds great on the instrument, but is completely
non-idiomatic. Great fingerboard-spanning arpeggios
laced w/ double sharps and flats, changing every
measure; a solo mandolin "Soliloqui" for the 4th
movement, a mini-opera for the 7th. It's 15 minutes
of music that is completely part of Krenek's language,
and the language of the post-WWII atonalists, but
completely new for the mandolin. Neil Gladd has
called it the most important work for mandolin
composed in the 20th century. I just met Gladgs
Krenek, Ernst's widow, in NYC on her way to Vienna,
and plans are foot for more performances of this
piece. I'm proud to be part of the picture.
Q - I really agree with you about the flexibility one need to put in the "right picking direction" theory. For me, it mostly depends on finding the most confortable position needed for the following note. Ususlly a downstroke on the strong beat is preferred, but, as you correctly pointed out, if my next note will be on a lower note, an upstroke will bring me closest to the correct string, thus minimizing my wrist movement. But... I was watching the Chris Thile techniques video last night, and he REALLY insists on the "up-down" everytime-at every cost. And he says that on a 6/8 tempo (jig tempo), we should always use a "down-up-down, down-up-down" movement. I feel this movement quite unconfortable and it doesn't help me much in accenting notes (I have to say that I "flatpick" guitars since 1977, therefore my picking control is quite good, by now). How do you approach 6/8 tempos? Ok, I've written a very long mail for just a 6 words question, I hope I haven't bored you to death in the meantime.
A - Picking is best determined by the way
it feels to you AND, more important, the way it
sounds. If you accent on your downstroke, as is
natural, then a down-up pattern will give a nice
da-dum-da-dum-da-dum iambic pentameter quite
naturally. If you want that accent pattern that's
fine, and it makes it easy for your hand to only have
to do one thing. But you can also consciously make
that accent pattern while using reverse picking.
Lots of jazz player have and still do that. Many
Europeans, particular German players, think
all-down-strokes is the superior method of picking,
as it gives a clean attack to each note, and no
accent. I don't like to use that much, because it
creates a sound that seems detached and dry to me.
People tend to get quite dogmatic about pick
direction-- second only to actual type/weight of
pick. But I think if you're listening you'll adjust
those to get the sound you want. If you're not
listening, well it doesn't really matter how you
pick or what pick you use.
6/8 picking is a special case. I divide it into 2
types that I call "jig picking" and "Bach picking".
For an Irish jig, which is a strongly accented dance,
you want a big accent on 1 and 4 (8th notes), and I
agree w/ what you said Chris demonstrated, that a
d-u-d / d-u-d easily creates that accent and gives it
a nice physicalization in the right hand. for a 6/8
in Baroque music, say, a gigue from a Bach partita,
however, we've moved out of dance territory. the
long line is crucial in Bach and to break it up to
accent every beat does a disservice to the music.
a strict down-up works much better to tailor to the
subtle rhythm and the occasional hemiola (a 3/4 beat
pattern thrown into a 6/8 measure) found in baroque
music, or classical music from any era.
Well, the sun has gone over the yardarm, and it's
time for a martini by the fire as the blizzard
continues to rage. it's been a fun week-- thanks for
the opportunity to talk about my favorite instrument
to an audience of believers. Max, if there are any
more questions in the chute that haven't made their
way to me I'll be happy to answer them tomorrow
(Sunday) but I know y'all have another week beginning.